Comments on: “Shut up and put up!”, or Kyrgyz-style tolerance http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/11/16/shut-up-and-put-up-or-kyrgyz-style-tolerance/ neweurasia\\\'s Kyrgyzstan blog Thu, 4 Dec 2008 23:06:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: Ataman Rakin http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/11/16/shut-up-and-put-up-or-kyrgyz-style-tolerance/#comment-29312 Ataman Rakin Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:38:08 +0000 http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/11/16/shut-up-and-put-up-or-kyrgyz-style-tolerance/#comment-29312 :) LOL "He can really use the gigs." In that case, let his manager contact me to discuss the author rights. ;) :) LOL

“He can really use the gigs.”

In that case, let his manager contact me to discuss the author rights. ;)

]]> By: James http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/11/16/shut-up-and-put-up-or-kyrgyz-style-tolerance/#comment-29271 James Sat, 24 Nov 2007 04:47:12 +0000 http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/11/16/shut-up-and-put-up-or-kyrgyz-style-tolerance/#comment-29271 Rakin, no need to do Christopher Hitchen's work for him. He can really use the gigs. Oh, and by the way, we get it, you can speak Russian. Molodets. Rakin, no need to do Christopher Hitchen’s work for him. He can really use the gigs.

Oh, and by the way, we get it, you can speak Russian. Molodets.

]]> By: Ataman Rakin http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/11/16/shut-up-and-put-up-or-kyrgyz-style-tolerance/#comment-29267 Ataman Rakin Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:32:38 +0000 http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/11/16/shut-up-and-put-up-or-kyrgyz-style-tolerance/#comment-29267 "And in the barracks after work they can have workshops on jazz dance and stuff…" Ben seems not very happy so perhaps we could expand that to flower arrangement workshops as well. “And in the barracks after work they can have workshops on jazz dance and stuff…”

Ben seems not very happy so perhaps we could expand that to flower arrangement workshops as well.

]]> By: Ataman Rakin http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/11/16/shut-up-and-put-up-or-kyrgyz-style-tolerance/#comment-29266 Ataman Rakin Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:28:03 +0000 http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/11/16/shut-up-and-put-up-or-kyrgyz-style-tolerance/#comment-29266 Tsk-tsk--ruhig mal. KapiTE. Ya zhe starshe. Tsk-tsk–ruhig mal. KapiTE. Ya zhe starshe.

]]> By: Ben http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/11/16/shut-up-and-put-up-or-kyrgyz-style-tolerance/#comment-29261 Ben Thu, 22 Nov 2007 20:44:16 +0000 http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/11/16/shut-up-and-put-up-or-kyrgyz-style-tolerance/#comment-29261 Erm - did you read the previous comment? I repeat: I am the owner of the neweurasia.net domain and you’re my guest over here and have to abide by my house rules! Your views are NOT WELCOME on neweurasia. Your latest comment is no exception. Please restrict yourself to relevant and constructive comments or don’t post at all. Kapish? Erm - did you read the previous comment? I repeat:

I am the owner of the neweurasia.net domain and you’re my guest over here and have to abide by my house rules! Your views are NOT WELCOME on neweurasia. Your latest comment is no exception. Please restrict yourself to relevant and constructive comments or don’t post at all.

Kapish?

]]> By: Ataman Rakin http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/11/16/shut-up-and-put-up-or-kyrgyz-style-tolerance/#comment-29260 Ataman Rakin Thu, 22 Nov 2007 19:54:08 +0000 http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/11/16/shut-up-and-put-up-or-kyrgyz-style-tolerance/#comment-29260 Oh, as a matter of fact I AM entitled to my views?? ;) How generous! I am moved to tears. As for constructive proposals, maybe we could put the LGBT to work in the coal mines at Kara Keche in Jumgal, under the personal spiritual guidance of Nurlan Motuev? Full employment, close to nature, fresh air, lots of exercise... And in the barracks after work they can have workshops on jazz dance and stuff... :) Oh, as a matter of fact I AM entitled to my views?? ;) How generous! I am moved to tears.

As for constructive proposals, maybe we could put the LGBT to work in the coal mines at Kara Keche in Jumgal, under the personal spiritual guidance of Nurlan Motuev? Full employment, close to nature, fresh air, lots of exercise… And in the barracks after work they can have workshops on jazz dance and stuff… :)

]]> By: Ben http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/11/16/shut-up-and-put-up-or-kyrgyz-style-tolerance/#comment-29255 Ben Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:44:16 +0000 http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/11/16/shut-up-and-put-up-or-kyrgyz-style-tolerance/#comment-29255 Ataman, I love heated debates, and I respect others' opinions. While I'm generally inclined to stick to the comment guidelines of our blog, I'm going to deviate just slightly on this occasion. I am the owner of the neweurasia.net domain and in a way, you're my guest over here and have to abide by my house rules, so I tell you the following: while you are entitled to your views, they are NOT WELCOME on neweurasia. Please restrict yourself to relevant and constructive comments or don't post at all. Thanks, Ben Ataman, I love heated debates, and I respect others’ opinions. While I’m generally inclined to stick to the comment guidelines of our blog, I’m going to deviate just slightly on this occasion.

I am the owner of the neweurasia.net domain and in a way, you’re my guest over here and have to abide by my house rules, so I tell you the following: while you are entitled to your views, they are NOT WELCOME on neweurasia. Please restrict yourself to relevant and constructive comments or don’t post at all.

Thanks,
Ben

]]> By: Ataman Rakin http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/11/16/shut-up-and-put-up-or-kyrgyz-style-tolerance/#comment-29254 Ataman Rakin Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:44:17 +0000 http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/11/16/shut-up-and-put-up-or-kyrgyz-style-tolerance/#comment-29254 Amen. “Who the heck do they think they are?…” OK I'll rephrase this: "Based on these statistical estimates by several stakeholders, couldn't we suggest that their perception of the overall sociological relevance and impact of the self-group is incompatible with the actual sociological relevance and BELCH impact on society on the whole?" :) Amen.

“Who the heck do they think they are?…”

OK I’ll rephrase this: “Based on these statistical estimates by several stakeholders, couldn’t we suggest that their perception of the overall sociological relevance and impact of the self-group is incompatible with the actual sociological relevance and BELCH impact on society on the whole?” :)

]]> By: CXW http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/11/16/shut-up-and-put-up-or-kyrgyz-style-tolerance/#comment-29253 CXW Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:29:44 +0000 http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/11/16/shut-up-and-put-up-or-kyrgyz-style-tolerance/#comment-29253 Please note that your post has not been moderated - and asking someone to respect basic principles such as not inciting hatred is indeed liberal; simply censoring someone would be the non-liberal thing to do. As you are aware, I do not agree with your views and find many of them highly offensive (just as you don't agree with my views). At the same time, I would defend your right to express them provided they do not promote hatred and violence. Your comments starting "Who the heck do they think they are?..." are polemic designed to arouse unfounded antipathy towards the group in question. Common respect and manners, not any desire to be PC, is what makes this unacceptable. Please note that your post has not been moderated - and asking someone to respect basic principles such as not inciting hatred is indeed liberal; simply censoring someone would be the non-liberal thing to do.

As you are aware, I do not agree with your views and find many of them highly offensive (just as you don’t agree with my views). At the same time, I would defend your right to express them provided they do not promote hatred and violence. Your comments starting “Who the heck do they think they are?…” are polemic designed to arouse unfounded antipathy towards the group in question. Common respect and manners, not any desire to be PC, is what makes this unacceptable.

]]> By: Ataman Rakin http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/11/16/shut-up-and-put-up-or-kyrgyz-style-tolerance/#comment-29252 Ataman Rakin Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:16:47 +0000 http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/11/16/shut-up-and-put-up-or-kyrgyz-style-tolerance/#comment-29252 Oi mamochka kak ya boyusya! :) lol "those taking the high moral ground are just showing themselves" Ow-ow-ow... YOU are the one taking the moral high ground. "Ataman, please be careful with your polemic as you are very close to inciting homophobic hatred, which will be subject to moderation." Voilààà! All very liberal, until trapped by someone who does not slavishly toes the PC line. Do you realise how stupid YOU look now? ;) Oi mamochka kak ya boyusya! :) lol

“those taking the high moral ground are just showing themselves”

Ow-ow-ow… YOU are the one taking the moral high ground.

“Ataman, please be careful with your polemic as you are very close to inciting homophobic hatred, which will be subject to moderation.”

Voilààà! All very liberal, until trapped by someone who does not slavishly toes the PC line. Do you realise how stupid YOU look now? ;)

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