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	<title>Comments on: Prostitution: Legalize or fight it?</title>
	<link>http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/08/10/prostitution-legalize-or-fight-it/</link>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/08/10/prostitution-legalize-or-fight-it/#comment-29733</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 07:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn't understand some parts of this article , but I guess I just need to check some more resources regarding this, because it sounds interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t understand some parts of this article , but I guess I just need to check some more resources regarding this, because it sounds interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Ataman Rakin</title>
		<link>http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/08/10/prostitution-legalize-or-fight-it/#comment-27331</link>
		<dc:creator>Ataman Rakin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"thanks to Tais Plus and to the fact that sex work is not criminalized in Kyrgyzstan."

Tais Plus, Rainbow etc. are Western-funded structures that actually support and propagate prostitution (liberally enough) in order to destroy the country's social tissue so that external forces can better colonise and exploit it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;thanks to Tais Plus and to the fact that sex work is not criminalized in Kyrgyzstan.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tais Plus, Rainbow etc. are Western-funded structures that actually support and propagate prostitution (liberally enough) in order to destroy the country&#8217;s social tissue so that external forces can better colonise and exploit it.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/08/10/prostitution-legalize-or-fight-it/#comment-25805</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anna.

Yes, please post if you find those numbers.  And if they're not out, well, then, sounds like a great survey or dissertation project for someone.  HIV rates among sex workers are so central to getting a pulse, so to speak, on where the virus is headed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anna.</p>
<p>Yes, please post if you find those numbers.  And if they&#8217;re not out, well, then, sounds like a great survey or dissertation project for someone.  HIV rates among sex workers are so central to getting a pulse, so to speak, on where the virus is headed.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/08/10/prostitution-legalize-or-fight-it/#comment-25781</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew, was trying to find numbers. Will be asking around. One thing I know for sure is that they are lower than the HIV rates among sex workers in other post-soviet countries thanks to Tais Plus and to the fact that sex work is not criminalized in Kyrgyzstan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew, was trying to find numbers. Will be asking around. One thing I know for sure is that they are lower than the HIV rates among sex workers in other post-soviet countries thanks to Tais Plus and to the fact that sex work is not criminalized in Kyrgyzstan.</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; Kyrgyzstan: Legalise prostitution?</title>
		<link>http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/08/10/prostitution-legalize-or-fight-it/#comment-25671</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; Kyrgyzstan: Legalise prostitution?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/08/10/prostitution-legalize-or-fight-it/#comment-25671</guid>
		<description>[...] Asel discusses whether one should legalise or ban prostitution in Kyrgyzstan. On his blog, Mirsulzhan argues for legalisation, and on Genderstan, Anna compares the situation in Kyrgyzstan with examples from Western countries.   Share This [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Asel discusses whether one should legalise or ban prostitution in Kyrgyzstan. On his blog, Mirsulzhan argues for legalisation, and on Genderstan, Anna compares the situation in Kyrgyzstan with examples from Western countries.   Share This [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/08/10/prostitution-legalize-or-fight-it/#comment-25560</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 23:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any good numbers on HIV rates among sex workers in Bishkek?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any good numbers on HIV rates among sex workers in Bishkek?</p>
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		<title>By: Ataman Rakin</title>
		<link>http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/08/10/prostitution-legalize-or-fight-it/#comment-25535</link>
		<dc:creator>Ataman Rakin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 14:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/08/10/prostitution-legalize-or-fight-it/#comment-25535</guid>
		<description>It would be interesting to see any realist statistics on the proportion of the phenomenon in Bishkek. Anyway, anecdotal evidence suggest that it is large.

IMO, 'poverty' plays a role but it is not enough to explain things. I think it's also a matter of mentality. During the '90s, prostitution (both supply and demand) has been actively promoted as a secular virtue in the name of 'friidum' by both the establishment and certain Western organisations to destroy the social tissue and better oppress the people (as one writer put it: 'wine, song and dance as an antidote to dissent').

If created/s friction and hatred. I know the example of a European NGO that had to close its HIV-prevention programme in Osh and Batken province already in 2002 after they ran into local accusations that they 'promoted prostitution'. Indeed ttheir naïve advocacy materials and the personal behavior of some of their expat workers gave ample ground for misunderstandings.

"Thirdly, whenever I hear of yet another ‘morality’ attack on sex workers, I ask ’so who are the clients?’. The MPs, Gansi soldiers, businessmen, men who come from villages to the city for fun or to sell something, and last but not least the Summit participants!"

Yes and certain European expats working for IFIs and some of whom are even involved in the setup of sex tours to Bishkek.

I agree though that the largest demand side is local. IMO it's the result of a certain loser notion of 'manhood' that revoves around a) heavy boozing and b) treating women like shit which involves using lots of prostitutes.

BTW, there is a related thread with debate here: http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/?p=30</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be interesting to see any realist statistics on the proportion of the phenomenon in Bishkek. Anyway, anecdotal evidence suggest that it is large.</p>
<p>IMO, &#8216;poverty&#8217; plays a role but it is not enough to explain things. I think it&#8217;s also a matter of mentality. During the &#8217;90s, prostitution (both supply and demand) has been actively promoted as a secular virtue in the name of &#8216;friidum&#8217; by both the establishment and certain Western organisations to destroy the social tissue and better oppress the people (as one writer put it: &#8216;wine, song and dance as an antidote to dissent&#8217;).</p>
<p>If created/s friction and hatred. I know the example of a European NGO that had to close its HIV-prevention programme in Osh and Batken province already in 2002 after they ran into local accusations that they &#8216;promoted prostitution&#8217;. Indeed ttheir naïve advocacy materials and the personal behavior of some of their expat workers gave ample ground for misunderstandings.</p>
<p>&#8220;Thirdly, whenever I hear of yet another ‘morality’ attack on sex workers, I ask ’so who are the clients?’. The MPs, Gansi soldiers, businessmen, men who come from villages to the city for fun or to sell something, and last but not least the Summit participants!&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes and certain European expats working for IFIs and some of whom are even involved in the setup of sex tours to Bishkek.</p>
<p>I agree though that the largest demand side is local. IMO it&#8217;s the result of a certain loser notion of &#8216;manhood&#8217; that revoves around a) heavy boozing and b) treating women like shit which involves using lots of prostitutes.</p>
<p>BTW, there is a related thread with debate here: <a href="http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/?p=30" rel="nofollow">http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/?p=30</a></p>
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		<title>By: response to &#8216;legalizing or fighting&#8217; sex work &#171; GenderStan</title>
		<link>http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/08/10/prostitution-legalize-or-fight-it/#comment-25480</link>
		<dc:creator>response to &#8216;legalizing or fighting&#8217; sex work &#171; GenderStan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 17:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] meetings. Meanwhile, I have been following developments in Kyrgyzstan. Just now found a post on NewEurasia.net about sex work and it very much corresponded with my just-three-days ago visit to the &#8216;Red [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] meetings. Meanwhile, I have been following developments in Kyrgyzstan. Just now found a post on NewEurasia.net about sex work and it very much corresponded with my just-three-days ago visit to the &#8216;Red [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/08/10/prostitution-legalize-or-fight-it/#comment-25477</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 17:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/08/10/prostitution-legalize-or-fight-it/#comment-25477</guid>
		<description>First of all, sex work is NOT criminalized in Kyrgyzstan.  There are organizations like "Tais Plus" working on protecting sex worker rights. 

Second of all, the police does make a lot of money on sex workers through bribing networks. You can find more information about research on this issue in Russian language at this website http://www.volvox.in.kg/files/prv/PoliceSWAssessment_ReviewFINAL_ru.doc 

Thirdly, whenever I hear of yet another 'morality' attack on sex workers, I ask 'so who are the clients?'. The MPs, Gansi soldiers, businessmen, men who come from villages to the city for fun or to sell something,  and last but not least the Summit participants!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, sex work is NOT criminalized in Kyrgyzstan.  There are organizations like &#8220;Tais Plus&#8221; working on protecting sex worker rights. </p>
<p>Second of all, the police does make a lot of money on sex workers through bribing networks. You can find more information about research on this issue in Russian language at this website <a href="http://www.volvox.in.kg/files/prv/PoliceSWAssessment_ReviewFINAL_ru.doc" rel="nofollow">http://www.volvox.in.kg/files/prv/PoliceSWAssessment_ReviewFINAL_ru.doc</a> </p>
<p>Thirdly, whenever I hear of yet another &#8216;morality&#8217; attack on sex workers, I ask &#8217;so who are the clients?&#8217;. The MPs, Gansi soldiers, businessmen, men who come from villages to the city for fun or to sell something,  and last but not least the Summit participants!</p>
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		<title>By: I am for legalizing the prostitution! &#171; Mirsulzhan Namazaliev&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/08/10/prostitution-legalize-or-fight-it/#comment-25455</link>
		<dc:creator>I am for legalizing the prostitution! &#171; Mirsulzhan Namazaliev&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 09:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  12 08 2007   Asel, my colleague at Neweurasia, wrote an interesting post called as &#8220;Prostitution: Legalize or fight it?&#8220;: Some make an argument for legalizing the prostitution, even though it goes against Islamic [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;]  12 08 2007   Asel, my colleague at Neweurasia, wrote an interesting post called as &#8220;Prostitution: Legalize or fight it?&#8220;: Some make an argument for legalizing the prostitution, even though it goes against Islamic [&#8230;]</p>
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