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		<title>By: CXW</title>
		<link>http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/07/24/kyrgyz-us-relations-the-real-story/#comment-23636</link>
		<dc:creator>CXW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Edil: Arguably we erred, but we (I) did provide a link to the source of our information (the RFE/RL link in the previous clause), which was one of the complaints made about the Jamestown coverage. We are also not claiming to be a thinktank inputting into U.S. policy. "Critical readers" here means that readers must draw their own conclusions about what they read - including about our coverage. 

Jim Langley: I have edited your comment by removing the full text of the original press release, since a link is provided in the post and it is extremely long. Many thanks for providing a copy of Jamestown's response. I have added a link to the bottom of the post as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edil: Arguably we erred, but we (I) did provide a link to the source of our information (the RFE/RL link in the previous clause), which was one of the complaints made about the Jamestown coverage. We are also not claiming to be a thinktank inputting into U.S. policy. &#8220;Critical readers&#8221; here means that readers must draw their own conclusions about what they read - including about our coverage. </p>
<p>Jim Langley: I have edited your comment by removing the full text of the original press release, since a link is provided in the post and it is extremely long. Many thanks for providing a copy of Jamestown&#8217;s response. I have added a link to the bottom of the post as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Edil</title>
		<link>http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/07/24/kyrgyz-us-relations-the-real-story/#comment-23634</link>
		<dc:creator>Edil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'critical readers required' :)

your own blog erred on July 14 with information that 'very limited compensation (approximately USD 1,000) was offered to the driver’s family'
http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/07/14/update-on-the-missing-major/</description>
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<p>your own blog erred on July 14 with information that &#8216;very limited compensation (approximately USD 1,000) was offered to the driver’s family&#8217;<br />
<a href="http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/07/14/update-on-the-missing-major/" rel="nofollow">http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/07/14/update-on-the-missing-major/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim Langley</title>
		<link>http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/07/24/kyrgyz-us-relations-the-real-story/#comment-23604</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Langley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 00:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You must have missed Jamestown's own press release in response to the State Department's claim:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Monday, June 11, 2007&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Note: A recent series of articles published in EDM (May 4, May 8 and May 17) by Jamestown analysts John C.K. Daly, Erica Marat, and Roger McDermott provoked a strong reaction from the U.S. State Department. Below, the Jamestown Foundation reprints the State Department response to these articles and rejoinders from the Jamestown analysts.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.jamestown.org/SDR-11JUN07.php" rel="nofollow"&gt;MANAS AIR BASE: CORRECTING THE RECORD&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;[original press release from Yovanovitch &#038; Feigenbaum - see link in post]

&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;John C.K. Daly&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The communications from the State Department about Jamestown's recent series of articles about the U.S. airbase at Manas, Kyrgyzstan, allege, at the very least, that the authors of the pieces are guilty of slipshod research techniques, overlooking items that portray alternate perspectives.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My piece was written using Russian, Kyrgyz, and U.S. sources available at the time of research and publication. I can state with confidence that that every single point alluded to in the Yovanovitch/Feigenbaum letter -- with the clear implication that it was publicly available knowledge -- is untrue, because among other things I used the www.firstgov.gov website, searching for multiple variants of "Manas, Kyrgyzstan, Hatfield, Ivanov, 2006, 2007," etc.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I note with interest that nowhere does the Yovanovitch/Feigenbaum letter mention that the Main Directorate of Investigations of the Kyrgyz Interior Ministry filed charges in the incident under Article 97, Part 1, of the Criminal Code. Instead, the letter purveys a number of assertions unsupported by a single item of documentary evidence about the status of the case, in a blatant attempt to besmirch not only Jamestown's commitment to the highest standards of research and authorship but impugning the Foundation's motives as well.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In my opinion the articles written by Dr. Marat, Dr. McGregor and myself represent the tradition of The Jamestown Foundation, which is one of using indigenous sourced information to analyze events in Eurasia that are important to U.S. interests. As an independent institution, it does not promote an agenda but rather, has experts survey the information publicly available at the time and, after reflection, discuss the implications of an issue. Jamestown authors are all specialists in their field, and they survey the open access material available at the time of authorship, from the local press to U.S. government publicly posted materials.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As authors deal with materials available at the time of writing, it is most disingenuous for government officials to subsequently request revisions based on materials that were not available when writing, but rather, to acknowledge such an effort at post-publication revisionism compromises the Jamestown Foundation's commitment to true scholarship on important contemporary issues.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On the issue of Manas, for example, should the U.S. embassy in Bishkek wish to make available for public perusal and dissemination any materials on its discussions with the Kyrgyz government on the issue of Hatfield's departure from Kyrgyzstan, the current status of Washington's SOFA agreement with Kyrgyzstan, or any subsequent materials relating to the base that can be quoted, as all EDM articles provide their open source materials, then I would be quite willing to write an "updated" article on Manas for EDM based upon the materials openly provided by the embassy and U.S. government officials.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Otherwise, the current complaints seem to be an effort to muddy the waters of open source research in a possible effort by government officials to evade responsibility for flawed policies, and such a masking of failure is anathema to the concept of a free press, much less the publishing branch of a renowned research and analysis organization such as Jamestown. If the arguments cited in the complaint had been available anywhere in the open press prior to the publication of the articles in question, they would have been cited, and to suggest otherwise is to demean the integrity and expertise of the authors. That Jamestown's series of articles apparently uncovered shortcomings in the Bishkek embassy's policy issues is not a shortcoming of Jamestown.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As things currently stand, the assertions of inaccuracy in this communiqué are unsupported by "open source" documentation, unlike the EDM articles currently being asserted to be inaccurate, which provide detailed source material. Again, "on the record" material of such items such as Ambassador Yovanovitch's discussion with President Bakiyev or indeed, any other supporting materials beyond those available to the authors at the time of their writing would be most gratefully received. In the absence of publicly available materials supporting these assertions of inaccuracy, the credibility of the current administration must remain somewhat questionable. The fact that the U.S. embassy in Bishkek has posted only one press release to its website on the Hatfield controversy since December 2006 only confirms our conclusions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Erica Marat&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Yovanovitch/Feigenbaum letter asserts, “The airman has not been tried, much less convicted,’ by any court. The U.S. investigation continues. And no matter who has jurisdiction, the airman is presumed innocent until proven guilty.” However, Hatfield was convicted of deliberate homicide by the Kyrgyz Prosecutor-General and Ministry of Interior on May 7, 2007. Kyrgyz law-enforcement officials claim they had conducted an investigation prior to convicting the airman. But neither the Prosecutor-General nor the Ministry of Interior were able to bring the airman into court. Therefore the only decision both institutions are left with is derived from their investigation. More information can be found here http://www.24.kg/community/2007/05/07/52877.html or by contacting the Ministry of Interior.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The letter further asserts, “Jamestown Foundation and the author were reckless to repeat a clearly biased and sensationalistic comment that the airman ‘intentionally hunted down’ the truck driver out of ‘anger and low personal character.’ No American or Kyrgyz with knowledge of this case has suggested that the airman did any such thing.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I intentionally presented one Kyrgyz civil rights activist's view of the Ivanov incident to show the magnitude of local public anger towards the U.S. military base. Not only is this anger largely irrational, but it is also easily manipulated by political actors speaking against the U.S. presence in Kyrgyzstan and Central Asia. Importantly, both Kyrgyz civil society actors and politicians have possibilities and skills to express their opinion and interests through organizing protests and publishing in local mass media outlets. In my previous articles I showed that Kyrgyz civil society activists are by far more mobilized around Ivanov's incident compared with similar cases in the past. Finally, the ambassador notes, “The United States has since offered, and Mrs. Ivanova accepted, a final goodwill payment of $55,000, an amount that reflects the specific factors of this case and takes into account Kyrgyz custom.” At the time when the May 17 article was published, Mrs. Ivanova had received only $1,000. In my n ext article, published on May 24, I note that she was paid $50,000 on May 21. I referred to an article by Tazar.kg published on March 12 that claims that U.S. Air Force's regulations recommend $100,000 for cases similar to Ivanov's. Several other Kyrgyz newspapers discussed even larger sums. This is also the belief shared by many Kyrgyz citizens.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I recognize I erred in stating $50,000 as a goodwill payment to Mrs. Ivanova when in fact it was $55,000.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Roger McDermott&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I disagree completely with the assertion that my article does “not meet the standards for which the Jamestown Foundation is known.” The State Department critique is founded on a fundamental misreading of the work. The article itself was thoroughly prepared, well referenced, and brought to the attention of readers an angle and range of issues not widely reported. Indeed, the focus of the article, for instance, was on the growing bilateral relationship between Kyrgyzstan and Iran. This was also placed in the context of Iran developing closer defense relations with Tajikistan. The import of this being that Tehran is becoming more active in the region, and the potential for military confrontation between the U.S. and Iran at a later date is being used to further undermine the credibility of maintaining the U.S. military presence in Kyrgyzstan.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Note that my article began with the clear denial issued by Ambassador Yovanovitch, which speaks for itself. I clarified, again by citing her own words, that the Manas base is in fact only used in relation to operations in Afghanistan. My article in no way gave credence or tacit support to the far-fetched view that Manas could be used for future use of U.S. air power against Iran. The reader can decide from the opening paragraph:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“On May 3 Marie Yovanovitch, U.S. Ambassador to Kyrgyzstan, denied reports that the Manas base near Bishkek is being used to store nuclear weapons for a possible attack on Iran. Yovanovitch commented on the “ridiculous” nature of these allegations, which suggested that the U.S. military could use low-yield nuclear weapons to attack Iranian nuclear facilities, should military action prove necessary. She reiterated that the base is used exclusively for transferring humanitarian supplies to Afghanistan.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The article does not “misattribute a quote from Interfax.” Let me clarify, I was, in fact, drawing attention to the source of the information. The fact that a denial was issued is irrelevant. What I was exposing was the fact that the Kyrgyz official had leaked this into the media, and I raised the issue of what the motive was for doing so; clearly intended to generate speculation about Manas. It should also be noted how specific he was in this “leak” suggesting that cargo into and out of the base cannot be adequately checked. It is not the issue as to whether this is true, or not, what is significant is that the assertion was made in the media.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I drew attention to the wider context of the ongoing controversy surrounding Manas in the conclusion of the article. Moscow is the key driving force behind attempts to drive a wedge between the host and the United States, this much is clear: using the Iran card is merely another way of doing this. As the article stated: “Such controversy surrounding Manas intermittently surfaces, but it also serves Russia’s interests, since the Russian defense community is increasingly hostile toward any U.S. military presence in the vicinity of Russia’s borders. Iran offers another way for Moscow to exert pressure on Washington to withdraw its forces form Central Asia.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The whole basis of this article was the available open source information in the Kyrgyz and Russian media. There were no open sources available at this time, from official Kyrgyz officials to support the line taken by Ambassador Yovanovitch in her politically motivated attack on Jamestown analysts. It is evidently incorrect to cast aspersions on the article, since within days the Kyrgyz parliament had commenced a review into the bilateral agreement between the United States and Kyrgyzstan concerning the Manas base.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must have missed Jamestown&#8217;s own press release in response to the State Department&#8217;s claim:</p>
<p>Monday, June 11, 2007</p>
<p>Note: A recent series of articles published in EDM (May 4, May 8 and May 17) by Jamestown analysts John C.K. Daly, Erica Marat, and Roger McDermott provoked a strong reaction from the U.S. State Department. Below, the Jamestown Foundation reprints the State Department response to these articles and rejoinders from the Jamestown analysts.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jamestown.org/SDR-11JUN07.php" rel="nofollow">MANAS AIR BASE: CORRECTING THE RECORD</a></p>
<p>[original press release from Yovanovitch &#038; Feigenbaum - see link in post]</p>
<p>John C.K. Daly</p>
<p>The communications from the State Department about Jamestown&#8217;s recent series of articles about the U.S. airbase at Manas, Kyrgyzstan, allege, at the very least, that the authors of the pieces are guilty of slipshod research techniques, overlooking items that portray alternate perspectives.</p>
<p>My piece was written using Russian, Kyrgyz, and U.S. sources available at the time of research and publication. I can state with confidence that that every single point alluded to in the Yovanovitch/Feigenbaum letter &#8212; with the clear implication that it was publicly available knowledge &#8212; is untrue, because among other things I used the <a href="http://www.firstgov.gov" rel="nofollow">www.firstgov.gov</a> website, searching for multiple variants of &#8220;Manas, Kyrgyzstan, Hatfield, Ivanov, 2006, 2007,&#8221; etc.</p>
<p>I note with interest that nowhere does the Yovanovitch/Feigenbaum letter mention that the Main Directorate of Investigations of the Kyrgyz Interior Ministry filed charges in the incident under Article 97, Part 1, of the Criminal Code. Instead, the letter purveys a number of assertions unsupported by a single item of documentary evidence about the status of the case, in a blatant attempt to besmirch not only Jamestown&#8217;s commitment to the highest standards of research and authorship but impugning the Foundation&#8217;s motives as well.</p>
<p>In my opinion the articles written by Dr. Marat, Dr. McGregor and myself represent the tradition of The Jamestown Foundation, which is one of using indigenous sourced information to analyze events in Eurasia that are important to U.S. interests. As an independent institution, it does not promote an agenda but rather, has experts survey the information publicly available at the time and, after reflection, discuss the implications of an issue. Jamestown authors are all specialists in their field, and they survey the open access material available at the time of authorship, from the local press to U.S. government publicly posted materials.</p>
<p>As authors deal with materials available at the time of writing, it is most disingenuous for government officials to subsequently request revisions based on materials that were not available when writing, but rather, to acknowledge such an effort at post-publication revisionism compromises the Jamestown Foundation&#8217;s commitment to true scholarship on important contemporary issues.</p>
<p>On the issue of Manas, for example, should the U.S. embassy in Bishkek wish to make available for public perusal and dissemination any materials on its discussions with the Kyrgyz government on the issue of Hatfield&#8217;s departure from Kyrgyzstan, the current status of Washington&#8217;s SOFA agreement with Kyrgyzstan, or any subsequent materials relating to the base that can be quoted, as all EDM articles provide their open source materials, then I would be quite willing to write an &#8220;updated&#8221; article on Manas for EDM based upon the materials openly provided by the embassy and U.S. government officials.</p>
<p>Otherwise, the current complaints seem to be an effort to muddy the waters of open source research in a possible effort by government officials to evade responsibility for flawed policies, and such a masking of failure is anathema to the concept of a free press, much less the publishing branch of a renowned research and analysis organization such as Jamestown. If the arguments cited in the complaint had been available anywhere in the open press prior to the publication of the articles in question, they would have been cited, and to suggest otherwise is to demean the integrity and expertise of the authors. That Jamestown&#8217;s series of articles apparently uncovered shortcomings in the Bishkek embassy&#8217;s policy issues is not a shortcoming of Jamestown.</p>
<p>As things currently stand, the assertions of inaccuracy in this communiqué are unsupported by &#8220;open source&#8221; documentation, unlike the EDM articles currently being asserted to be inaccurate, which provide detailed source material. Again, &#8220;on the record&#8221; material of such items such as Ambassador Yovanovitch&#8217;s discussion with President Bakiyev or indeed, any other supporting materials beyond those available to the authors at the time of their writing would be most gratefully received. In the absence of publicly available materials supporting these assertions of inaccuracy, the credibility of the current administration must remain somewhat questionable. The fact that the U.S. embassy in Bishkek has posted only one press release to its website on the Hatfield controversy since December 2006 only confirms our conclusions.</p>
<p>Erica Marat</p>
<p>The Yovanovitch/Feigenbaum letter asserts, “The airman has not been tried, much less convicted,’ by any court. The U.S. investigation continues. And no matter who has jurisdiction, the airman is presumed innocent until proven guilty.” However, Hatfield was convicted of deliberate homicide by the Kyrgyz Prosecutor-General and Ministry of Interior on May 7, 2007. Kyrgyz law-enforcement officials claim they had conducted an investigation prior to convicting the airman. But neither the Prosecutor-General nor the Ministry of Interior were able to bring the airman into court. Therefore the only decision both institutions are left with is derived from their investigation. More information can be found here <a href="http://www.24.kg/community/2007/05/07/52877.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.24.kg/community/2007/05/07/52877.html</a> or by contacting the Ministry of Interior.</p>
<p>The letter further asserts, “Jamestown Foundation and the author were reckless to repeat a clearly biased and sensationalistic comment that the airman ‘intentionally hunted down’ the truck driver out of ‘anger and low personal character.’ No American or Kyrgyz with knowledge of this case has suggested that the airman did any such thing.”</p>
<p>I intentionally presented one Kyrgyz civil rights activist&#8217;s view of the Ivanov incident to show the magnitude of local public anger towards the U.S. military base. Not only is this anger largely irrational, but it is also easily manipulated by political actors speaking against the U.S. presence in Kyrgyzstan and Central Asia. Importantly, both Kyrgyz civil society actors and politicians have possibilities and skills to express their opinion and interests through organizing protests and publishing in local mass media outlets. In my previous articles I showed that Kyrgyz civil society activists are by far more mobilized around Ivanov&#8217;s incident compared with similar cases in the past. Finally, the ambassador notes, “The United States has since offered, and Mrs. Ivanova accepted, a final goodwill payment of $55,000, an amount that reflects the specific factors of this case and takes into account Kyrgyz custom.” At the time when the May 17 article was published, Mrs. Ivanova had received only $1,000. In my n ext article, published on May 24, I note that she was paid $50,000 on May 21. I referred to an article by Tazar.kg published on March 12 that claims that U.S. Air Force&#8217;s regulations recommend $100,000 for cases similar to Ivanov&#8217;s. Several other Kyrgyz newspapers discussed even larger sums. This is also the belief shared by many Kyrgyz citizens.</p>
<p>I recognize I erred in stating $50,000 as a goodwill payment to Mrs. Ivanova when in fact it was $55,000.</p>
<p>Roger McDermott</p>
<p>I disagree completely with the assertion that my article does “not meet the standards for which the Jamestown Foundation is known.” The State Department critique is founded on a fundamental misreading of the work. The article itself was thoroughly prepared, well referenced, and brought to the attention of readers an angle and range of issues not widely reported. Indeed, the focus of the article, for instance, was on the growing bilateral relationship between Kyrgyzstan and Iran. This was also placed in the context of Iran developing closer defense relations with Tajikistan. The import of this being that Tehran is becoming more active in the region, and the potential for military confrontation between the U.S. and Iran at a later date is being used to further undermine the credibility of maintaining the U.S. military presence in Kyrgyzstan.</p>
<p>Note that my article began with the clear denial issued by Ambassador Yovanovitch, which speaks for itself. I clarified, again by citing her own words, that the Manas base is in fact only used in relation to operations in Afghanistan. My article in no way gave credence or tacit support to the far-fetched view that Manas could be used for future use of U.S. air power against Iran. The reader can decide from the opening paragraph:</p>
<p>“On May 3 Marie Yovanovitch, U.S. Ambassador to Kyrgyzstan, denied reports that the Manas base near Bishkek is being used to store nuclear weapons for a possible attack on Iran. Yovanovitch commented on the “ridiculous” nature of these allegations, which suggested that the U.S. military could use low-yield nuclear weapons to attack Iranian nuclear facilities, should military action prove necessary. She reiterated that the base is used exclusively for transferring humanitarian supplies to Afghanistan.”</p>
<p>The article does not “misattribute a quote from Interfax.” Let me clarify, I was, in fact, drawing attention to the source of the information. The fact that a denial was issued is irrelevant. What I was exposing was the fact that the Kyrgyz official had leaked this into the media, and I raised the issue of what the motive was for doing so; clearly intended to generate speculation about Manas. It should also be noted how specific he was in this “leak” suggesting that cargo into and out of the base cannot be adequately checked. It is not the issue as to whether this is true, or not, what is significant is that the assertion was made in the media.</p>
<p>I drew attention to the wider context of the ongoing controversy surrounding Manas in the conclusion of the article. Moscow is the key driving force behind attempts to drive a wedge between the host and the United States, this much is clear: using the Iran card is merely another way of doing this. As the article stated: “Such controversy surrounding Manas intermittently surfaces, but it also serves Russia’s interests, since the Russian defense community is increasingly hostile toward any U.S. military presence in the vicinity of Russia’s borders. Iran offers another way for Moscow to exert pressure on Washington to withdraw its forces form Central Asia.”</p>
<p>The whole basis of this article was the available open source information in the Kyrgyz and Russian media. There were no open sources available at this time, from official Kyrgyz officials to support the line taken by Ambassador Yovanovitch in her politically motivated attack on Jamestown analysts. It is evidently incorrect to cast aspersions on the article, since within days the Kyrgyz parliament had commenced a review into the bilateral agreement between the United States and Kyrgyzstan concerning the Manas base.</p>
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