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	<title>Comments on: Abortions as a main tool of family planning in Kyrgyzstan</title>
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		<title>By: Ataman Rakin</title>
		<link>http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/01/13/abortions-as-a-main-tool-of-family-planning-in-kyrgyzstan/#comment-10223</link>
		<dc:creator>Ataman Rakin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 10:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I’m not going to engage into any kinds of theological discussions but would definitely like to discourage him from doing that in the future." 

You need to come up with more than that to discourage me, my friend. ;-) OK *a substantial amount of evil* is indeed caused by *a certain twisted interpretation and practice of secularism in former Soviet countries*, yes. 

I mean, let’s be serious. What the power elites, a certain part of the urban intelligentsia and part of the expats in these countries call ‘secularism’ and even ‘democracy’ is, in fact, actively promote vice and social decay to better oppress and exploit largers swaths of the population. ‘Alkashi’ and ‘narkomani’ do not go for dissent, you see? Therefore, all values and norms that oppose social decay and upkeep a person’s dignity have to be destroyed. 

That is one of the core purposes of the kafir power elites and urban intelligentsia’s Islamophobia.

Ironically, naive western do-gooders who are lecturing about promoting ‘frriidum’ of this and ‘friidum’ of that are willy nilly pawns in that game. They do not realise yet that this wil seriously backlash against them in the years to come. This has nothing to do with theology. 

I do not even remotely pretend to have the truth for lease. On the other hand, I have spent a substantial part of my carreer in Muslim Africa and in Central Asia and I have seen two or three interesting things. And one of these is that I have rarely seen a society that is so rapidaly decaying and has so little identity and confidence than Kyrgyzstan. 

Of course, you’ll come up with, ‘yes, but social decay it has all to do with the bad shape of the economy -- lyudi zarplati nye polutshayut’ etcetera. Yes, that is indeed a fundamental explanation. Yet it’s not enough. It has also to do with a certain mindset and with an heavy identity crisis, that is, in turn, exploited and promoted by those in whose interest it is to keep people down.

You seem to be an intelligent woman. So I’m sure you’re well aware of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m not going to engage into any kinds of theological discussions but would definitely like to discourage him from doing that in the future.&#8221; </p>
<p>You need to come up with more than that to discourage me, my friend. <img src='http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> OK *a substantial amount of evil* is indeed caused by *a certain twisted interpretation and practice of secularism in former Soviet countries*, yes. </p>
<p>I mean, let’s be serious. What the power elites, a certain part of the urban intelligentsia and part of the expats in these countries call ‘secularism’ and even ‘democracy’ is, in fact, actively promote vice and social decay to better oppress and exploit largers swaths of the population. ‘Alkashi’ and ‘narkomani’ do not go for dissent, you see? Therefore, all values and norms that oppose social decay and upkeep a person’s dignity have to be destroyed. </p>
<p>That is one of the core purposes of the kafir power elites and urban intelligentsia’s Islamophobia.</p>
<p>Ironically, naive western do-gooders who are lecturing about promoting ‘frriidum’ of this and ‘friidum’ of that are willy nilly pawns in that game. They do not realise yet that this wil seriously backlash against them in the years to come. This has nothing to do with theology. </p>
<p>I do not even remotely pretend to have the truth for lease. On the other hand, I have spent a substantial part of my carreer in Muslim Africa and in Central Asia and I have seen two or three interesting things. And one of these is that I have rarely seen a society that is so rapidaly decaying and has so little identity and confidence than Kyrgyzstan. </p>
<p>Of course, you’ll come up with, ‘yes, but social decay it has all to do with the bad shape of the economy &#8212; lyudi zarplati nye polutshayut’ etcetera. Yes, that is indeed a fundamental explanation. Yet it’s not enough. It has also to do with a certain mindset and with an heavy identity crisis, that is, in turn, exploited and promoted by those in whose interest it is to keep people down.</p>
<p>You seem to be an intelligent woman. So I’m sure you’re well aware of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Yulia</title>
		<link>http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/01/13/abortions-as-a-main-tool-of-family-planning-in-kyrgyzstan/#comment-9365</link>
		<dc:creator>Yulia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a quick observation. For some reason, I got an impression that Ataman Rakim is very persistent in his attemts to make us think that all the world's evil comes from secularism. It is not the case. I'm not going to engage into any kinds of theological discussions but would definitely like to discourage him from doing that in the future. At least when it comes to commenting on neweurasia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick observation. For some reason, I got an impression that Ataman Rakim is very persistent in his attemts to make us think that all the world&#8217;s evil comes from secularism. It is not the case. I&#8217;m not going to engage into any kinds of theological discussions but would definitely like to discourage him from doing that in the future. At least when it comes to commenting on neweurasia.</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Kyrgyzstan: Abortion as Birth-Control</title>
		<link>http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/01/13/abortions-as-a-main-tool-of-family-planning-in-kyrgyzstan/#comment-9307</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Kyrgyzstan: Abortion as Birth-Control</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Yulia translates a Russian-language post reporting on the use of abortion as birth-control in Kyrgyzstan.    Nathan Hamm [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Yulia translates a Russian-language post reporting on the use of abortion as birth-control in Kyrgyzstan.    Nathan Hamm [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Ataman Rakin</title>
		<link>http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/01/13/abortions-as-a-main-tool-of-family-planning-in-kyrgyzstan/#comment-9123</link>
		<dc:creator>Ataman Rakin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet another symptom of the general bestialisation and degeneration of society in Kyrgyzstan and similar countries... (it's called 'secularism' I think).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another symptom of the general bestialisation and degeneration of society in Kyrgyzstan and similar countries&#8230; (it&#8217;s called &#8217;secularism&#8217; I think).</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2007/01/13/abortions-as-a-main-tool-of-family-planning-in-kyrgyzstan/#comment-9105</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 02:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one of the most heart-wrenching stories I've read in a long time.  First and foremost for the unborn children tossed into the rubbish bin as if they were so much fecal material and secondly, for the women who feel they have no value whatsoever aside from providing sexual pleasure to their boyfriends/husbands.  Finally, how tragic that traditional Kyrgyz culture will eventually go the way of all western societies in their complete disregard for life apart from its contribution to the economy.  First the unborn, then the infirmed, then the aged, all the helpless segments of a population must be sacrificed to the god of economic prosperity.  I weep for yet another society intent on its own destruction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the most heart-wrenching stories I&#8217;ve read in a long time.  First and foremost for the unborn children tossed into the rubbish bin as if they were so much fecal material and secondly, for the women who feel they have no value whatsoever aside from providing sexual pleasure to their boyfriends/husbands.  Finally, how tragic that traditional Kyrgyz culture will eventually go the way of all western societies in their complete disregard for life apart from its contribution to the economy.  First the unborn, then the infirmed, then the aged, all the helpless segments of a population must be sacrificed to the god of economic prosperity.  I weep for yet another society intent on its own destruction.</p>
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