Comments on: Bride Kidnapping: Tradition or Illegal Action http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2006/12/21/bride-kidnapping-tradition-or-illegal-action/ neweurasia\\\'s Kyrgyzstan blog Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:26:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: chaikhana.neweurasia.net » Blog Archive » Pre-selected chapters round 1 for Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2006/12/21/bride-kidnapping-tradition-or-illegal-action/#comment-30528 chaikhana.neweurasia.net » Blog Archive » Pre-selected chapters round 1 for Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:19:52 +0000 http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2006/12/21/bride-kidnapping-tradition-or-illegal-action/#comment-30528 [...] http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2006/12/22/thinking-gender-implying-deprivation/ http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2006/12/21/bride-kidnapping-tradition-or-illegal-action/ [...] […] http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2006/12/22/thinking-gender-implying-deprivation/ http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2006/12/21/bride-kidnapping-tradition-or-illegal-action/ […]

]]> By: Jyla http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2006/12/21/bride-kidnapping-tradition-or-illegal-action/#comment-28963 Jyla Fri, 26 Oct 2007 00:09:05 +0000 http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2006/12/21/bride-kidnapping-tradition-or-illegal-action/#comment-28963 I've just read the article. The first case seems to look like an arranged marraige where both parties give their free and full concent. As to the second case of ala-kachuu, well, it is a pure vilation of women's human rights, especially the right to marry which is protected in many international human rights instruments like ICCPR,ICESCR, CEDAW. And according to the international human rights law (CEDAW, article 2(f)) states parties are obliged to eliminate customs and practices which constitute discrimination against women. Kyrgyzstan is a party to many international human rights instruments. So ala-kachuu cannot be justified on any grounds! I’ve just read the article. The first case seems to look like an arranged marraige where both parties give their free and full concent. As to the second case of ala-kachuu, well, it is a pure vilation of women’s human rights, especially the right to marry which is protected in many international human rights instruments like ICCPR,ICESCR, CEDAW. And according to the international human rights law (CEDAW, article 2(f)) states parties are obliged to eliminate customs and practices which constitute discrimination against women. Kyrgyzstan is a party to many international human rights instruments. So ala-kachuu cannot be justified on any grounds!

]]> By: Ataman Rakin http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2006/12/21/bride-kidnapping-tradition-or-illegal-action/#comment-7826 Ataman Rakin Thu, 28 Dec 2006 14:17:53 +0000 http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2006/12/21/bride-kidnapping-tradition-or-illegal-action/#comment-7826 Indeed interesting! What I'd like to know are the *real* proportions of the phenomenon, or whether is has been sensationalised by Western media (and some sleazy local media, like Vechernii Bihskek under the Akayevs) and inflated by Western-funded NGOs for the sake of the $$$ attached. Personally I tend to think the latter. What I find more worrying than ala kachuu is the massive promotion of prostitution and sex traffic in the country by pot-bellied nachalniki and certain expats. "not compatible with the democratic values (Western!)." Sorry, but these have already been hollowed and discredited all over the region. Indeed interesting! What I’d like to know are the *real* proportions of the phenomenon, or whether is has been sensationalised by Western media (and some sleazy local media, like Vechernii Bihskek under the Akayevs) and inflated by Western-funded NGOs for the sake of the $$$ attached.

Personally I tend to think the latter. What I find more worrying than ala kachuu is the massive promotion of prostitution and sex traffic in the country by pot-bellied nachalniki and certain expats.

“not compatible with the democratic values (Western!).”

Sorry, but these have already been hollowed and discredited all over the region.

]]> By: Leila http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2006/12/21/bride-kidnapping-tradition-or-illegal-action/#comment-7775 Leila Wed, 27 Dec 2006 23:01:31 +0000 http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2006/12/21/bride-kidnapping-tradition-or-illegal-action/#comment-7775 This is a very interesting post! I guess it is difficult to decide whether this is a cultural tradition that should be preserved or an atavistic custom that is not compatible with the democratic values (Western!). The first story that you describe seems like an arranged marriage, which I guess is totally ok. It is an agreement between two parties. But the second is, of course, outrageous, and those who defend kidnapping, usually refer to cases like the first one and say that often girls agree to be kidnapped or stay afterwards. This is a very interesting post! I guess it is difficult to decide whether this is a cultural tradition that should be preserved or an atavistic custom that is not compatible with the democratic values (Western!). The first story that you describe seems like an arranged marriage, which I guess is totally ok. It is an agreement between two parties. But the second is, of course, outrageous, and those who defend kidnapping, usually refer to cases like the first one and say that often girls agree to be kidnapped or stay afterwards.

]]> By: Global Voices Online » Blog Archive » Kyrgyzstan: Ala Kachuu http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2006/12/21/bride-kidnapping-tradition-or-illegal-action/#comment-7430 Global Voices Online » Blog Archive » Kyrgyzstan: Ala Kachuu Fri, 22 Dec 2006 04:23:38 +0000 http://kyrgyzstan.neweurasia.net/2006/12/21/bride-kidnapping-tradition-or-illegal-action/#comment-7430 [...] Tolkun Umaraliev writes on the practice of bride kidnapping in Kyrgyzstan, noting that the practice is common despite it being illegal. He says that officials are reluctant to do anything about it. Nathan Hamm [...] […] Tolkun Umaraliev writes on the practice of bride kidnapping in Kyrgyzstan, noting that the practice is common despite it being illegal. He says that officials are reluctant to do anything about it. Nathan Hamm […]

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